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110/5 Karen Gurine Nielsdatter
The last sibling of Karen Gurine that I have record of is Karen Gurine Nielsdatter, born 5 August 1840 and died 6 August 1840.

The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1833-1843, Parish register (official), birth records 1840, page 70, entry 56, Karen Gurine, Niels Hansen and Anne Olsdatter,  Klovholt, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read : accessed 25 January 2013>.

The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1833-1843, Parish register (official), death records 1840, page 121, entry 49, Karen Gurine Nielsdatter, Klovholt, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read : accessed 25 January 2013>.

111/4  Johan Andreas Selmer born 30 December 1834.
This is the birth record for Karen Gurine Nelsdatter's older brother, John:

The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1833-1843, parish register (official) birth and baptism records, 1835, page 14, entry 17,  Johan Andreas Selmer,  <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read : accessed 17 January 2013>.

At the Family History Library in Salt Lake City last month I asked a Norwegian Specialist to help me read it.  

In the 5th column it states illegitimate.  

In the sixth column it gives parentage: a married wife Anne Olesdatter of Klovholt and the stated father of the child, the batchelor, (it gives a crunched name and occupation) Selmer of Christianna (now Oslo).  Her first immorality.  The far right column states that the husband was notified at Paludan (a place in Denmark).

This next record is of his confirmation: Spring class of 1850.

The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1844-1855, parish register (official) Confirmation Records, 1850, page 228, entry 27,  Johan Andreas Selmer,  <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read : accessed 19 January 2013>.

I'm not sure the where the name Selmer comes from, the father  I guess.

John is the one who had a child in Wisconsin in 1866 named Louis.  This is the boy we find with Karen Gurine, aka Caroline Jacobson in the 1870 and 1880 census records.  Karen Gurine raised her nephew.  He became a plumber in Chicago and had three children.  Mom and Dad had some correspondence with a descendant of his, Irenne F. Gable, in February and March of 2001.  

Ablowin' In The Wind

by Irenne Gable

You ask why I say "Genealogy ain't all that great."  It's because of what I learned about my beloved Grandpa Nelson.

Until very recently this is what I knew about my patriarchal predecessor.  Lewis Hans Nelson was born in Oslo, Norway and his mother died in childbirth.  His father was a Viking,  a Norwegian sailor.  Because of his sailing schedule he could not care for his infant son.  I didn't know my Great Grandfather's name, but because of the way the Norwegian lineage works I figured it could be, probably was, Nels.  Nels had only one relative who could help him, a sister who lied in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 

My Viking Great Grandfather brought his newborn son over the wild and tempestuous Atlantic Ocean shortly after his birth, May 14, 1866 and a dear and loving aunt raised him. There were other questions for which I didn't have answers, hence my reason for delving into the archives.

For instance, I didn't know how and when Grandpa got from Milwaukee to Chicago and started successful plumbing business, a segment of this historical past I was planning to pursue through the wonders of genealogy.  Other missing parts were going to be revealed as well, i.e. "How and where did he meet Grandma Nelson  who had immigrated to America from Sweden to do domestic work, when she was 16 years old."

"So what's the problem?" you ask.  "You've got good substantial starting information."

That's the problem.  Very recently I was startled to learn after receiving a copy of Grandpa's death certificate that he was born in Milwaukee!  It further listed his father's name: John. (Really)  Also after mother's name: unknown.  (No Surprise) But my romantic picture of a stalwart  heartbroken Viking crossing the ocean with infant son was torn asunder.  

As a child Lewis Hans Nelson was my hero.  He was kind, loving and caring to me, his second grandchild, and together we made meaningful memories.  As my family lived next door I  would visit him regularly.  Before he'd take his daily nap I would drop in to make a connection.  At the conclusion of our time, with out fail he would reach into his pants pocket and pull out a nickel for me.  Five cents bought alot of candy back then.

From where I'm at now it seems strange that I never discussed with Gramps his childhood and early beginnings.  Where did I get my romantic Viking rendition?

To prove that the certificate might be in error I called my cousin Millye in California.  She had enjoyed good times with Grandma and Grandpa Nelson when they all lived in the Golden State.  I started to tell her my Viking version, but before I could report the information on the death certificate she stated: "No, that is not what I heard.  Grandpa said he was born in  Milwaukee..  He told me he was an orphan."  She repeated: "He told me he was an orphan, born in Milwaukee."

Like I said in the beginning of this story, currently in my opinion genealogy ain't all that great.  I am purposefully being ungrammatical to stress my unhappiness and disappointment.  However, despite it all ,  I've decided to pursue it and Grandpa through the 1870 census and whatever other avenues present themselves.  Being an optimist and deciding to take a positive attitude I'm considering that I may learn something so interesting it will make my Viking story pale in contrast.

Memories of Grandpa Nelson are my treasures.  I loved and knew him so well having spent very valuable time with him even after my marriage and my children made him a great Grandfather.

My disappointment is not with Grandpa; it is with this new information.  It's taken the wind out of my Viking sails.

Five years later... in the Soren Sorensen family in the 1870 census in Chicago.

We ask what happened to Anne Caroline and notice a new baby Carrie.

1870 census

United States Census, 1870," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M676-PM7 : accessed 23 Feb 2013), Swen Sorenson household, Illinois, United States; citing p. 310, family 2152, NARA microfilm publication M593, FHL microfilm 545705.

Perhaps this interment list will shed some light:

If this Anne M Sorenson that passed away at 1 year 3 months in August 1869 belongs to Anne Margrethe then their second daughter, Anne Caroline, that migrated with them also must have passed away after arriving in America.  It is a fourth daughter, then, that shows up in the 1870 census as Carrie Sorensen born about January 1870.
Also notice, Anne H Sevinson died at age 47 years, 10 months in November 1879.  This matches the age of Anne Margrethe Nielsdatter Sorensen.  So is this person on the interment list the same?  It is in Familysearch as such.
Finally notice the death of Soren Sorenson August 1904, age 77.

Again notice the research that could be done to account for this family in the United States.

Søren Sørensen and Anne Margrethe Nielsdatter 

migration to Amerika 

Udflyttede 1865 migrating out of Solum, Telemark, Norway [1] 

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=north

The following is from the above website.  Søren Sørensen, his wife Anne Margrethe and their four children are found on the passenger list entering Quebec that can be looked up on this site.

Announcement from Morgenbladet April 9th, 1865

Passenger accommodation to America. The newly built ship Northcote, owned by Mr. P. M. Petersen and others in Porsgrunn, and is expected home in April, will after unloading probably depart Porsgrunn in the early days of May with passenger for Quebec, if a sufficient number of passengers enrolls. Fees and conditions are negotiated with the undersigned, where enrolling can be done, Skien March 1865, J. Eriksen

The bark Northcote was built in 1864 at P. M. Petersens shipyard in Porsgrunn. She was constructed from drawings by Decke of Bergen. Her burden was about 120 Norwegian Commercial lasts.  She was named after the London brooker-house "Northcote & Co." of London. The Northcote was launched in August 1864, and commenced her maiden voyage to Teignmouth in England. From there she sailed to Swansea where she arrived on December 18th. From Swansea she took freight for Ibiza, and on March 27th 1865 she passed Gibraltar on her way back to Porsgrunn to be refitted for emigrant freight.  She departed from Porsgrunn on May 30th, 1865, carrying 120 adults and some children, all in all 141 passengers.  They arrived at Quebec on July 29th. She departed from Quebec with a load of wood on August 11th for Weymouth in England where she arrived 1 month and a 1 day after departure from Quebec.  From there she sailed for Portsmouth and on to Narva in the Baltic Sea to load timber.  On December 2nd 1865 sailed for Bristol and then on to Bridgewater and Cardiff.  On January 26, 1866 she departed Cardiff for Lisboa, and just off Lisboa (North Catchop) she sank on 15 fathoms depth.  The captain and crew were rescued.  She was mastered by Capt. H> Petersen.  The passenger list is archived by the National Archives of Canada (NAC).

1865 was the first year Quebec kept migration records.  This was the year Karen's sister Anne Margrethe immigrated to the United States with her family.

[1] The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1865-1876, parish register (official) migration records, Udflyttede, 1865, page 386, entry 38, Margarethe Nielsdr, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN : accessed 25 Jan 2013>.

children of Søren Sørensen and Anne Margrethe in Norway

Søren Sørensen and Anne Margrethe had the following children in Norway:

Hans Severin 9 Mar 1855 [1]
Anne Caroline 26 Nov 1856 [2]  +died 25 Dec 1856 [3]
Søren Andreas 11 Nov 1857 [4]
Niels 16 Jan 1860 [5]
Anne Caroline 7 Feb 1863 [6]

[1] The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1844-1855, parish register (official) birth and baptism records, 1855, page 188, entry 92, Hans Severin, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN : accessed 3 Feb 2013>.

[2] The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1856-1864, parish register (official) birth and baptism records, 1856, page 13, entry 144, Anne Caroline, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN : accessed 3 Feb 2013>.

[3] The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1856-1864, parish register (official) death and burial records, 1856, page 317, entry 82, Anne Caroline, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN : accessed 3 Feb 2013>.

[4] The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1856-1864, parish register (official) birth and baptism records, 1858, page 32, entry 18, Soren Andreas, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN : accessed 3 Feb 2013>.

[5] The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1856-1964, parish register (official) birth and baptism records, 1860, page 76, entry 87, Niels, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN : accessed 3 Feb 2013>.

  

[6] The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1856-1964, parish register (official) birth and baptism records, 1863 page 120, entry 64, Anne Caroline, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN : accessed 3 Feb 2013>.

110/3 Anne Margrethe Nelsdatter
Karen's older sister, Anne Margrethe, was born 21 January 1832. [1]

birth record Anne Margrethe 1832

 Her confirmation was with the spring class, 11 April 1847, when she was 15 years old.  [2]

confirmation record for Anne Margrethe 1847

 She married Søren Sørensen   on 7 July 1854.  [3]

marriage record of Søren Sørensen and Anne Margrethe Nielsdr 1854

Søren Sørensen and Anne Margrethe Nielsdatter 

[1]The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1814-1833, parish register (official) birth and baptism records, 1832, page 170, entry 10, Anne Margrethe, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN : accessed 3 Feb 2013>.
[2]The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1844-1855, Parish register (official), confirmation records 1847, page 214, entry 36, Anne Margrethe Nielsdatter, <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read : accessed 25 January 2013>.
[3]The National Archives of Norway, scanned church records, Telemark, Solum: 1844-1855, parish register (official) marriage records, 1854, page 345, entry 22,   <http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read : accessed 4 April 2010>.